Amazon and Animal Fighting
After receiving this link from the The Humane Society, I have decided that I am simply through with them.
I do, and it's a hard thing to do sometimes, agree with Amazon's position on Free Speech and Free Markets. The thing about free markets though, is that if they are in violation of existing laws by selling subscriptions to "Feathered Warrior", "The GameCock" and other magazines devoted to cockfighting, they deserve to pay full penalties for that.
Follow the links, read what they are doing. Then, I urge to you email Amazon to voice your displeasure. I emailed, cancelled my account, and then phoned to express my disgust with them.
Oh, yeah, they also sell DVD's of dogfighting.
Sick. Fucking. Bastards.
Again, they can exercise their first amendment rights by selling these, within existing law of course. I can exercise my first amendment rights by voicing my displeasure and refusing to do any further business with them.
UPDATE:
When you contact amazon you will receive a bullshit, disingenuous form email that says stuff like blah, blah, freedom of speech, blah blah blah, free markets, blah blah blah we have rights blah blah. . .
I wrote back saying that since they don't sell books that instruct the reader on the making of home made bombs or the newest developments in pedophilia that their argument simply does not hold water. In the words of my sister, the nurse and fostermom of the decade, If you do business with creeps and someone points that out to you and you still do business with creeps it makes you a fucking creep. Creep.
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posted by The Minstrel Boy at 9:27 AM
20 Comments:
I haven't done any business with them for a few years now. Once I found out what their politics were I lost all interest in giving them any business.
- oddjob
Thank you for this.
--L.
Yes, BRAVO. As the owner of the world's sweetest pitbull (who's doing fabulously, by the way), this shit makes my blood boil.
I signed the HSUS petition, too, and will contact Amazon and let them know how disgusted I am, and that I want my account closed.
I only ever order books and CD's from them anyway, and I gotta tell you, Half.com has better prices, and Barnes and Noble has better politics. So that's where my money will go henceforth.
Bless you for posting this, MB.
thanks for letting me know.you've done a good thing.
I buy many books from Amazon and this is the first that I've heard of their politics.
Please post more info. I stopped shopping at Home Depot after they're substantial support of Bush in both elections.
I'll certainly stop shopping at Amazon if they're of the same ilk.
Im sure standing up to the cock-fighters makes you feel powerful. More power to you
i'm not standing up to cockfighters. i'm standing apart from them. there's a difference. i am a bibliophile. i love books, when amazon was a startup i was one of their first investors. hell, when i sold them off i made a tidy profit. i sold them off because i do not agree with their politics, i did not agree with their whole dot.com style of busniness. i am willing to pay more (i'm also well able to do so) to try and keep my money and goods somewhat clean.
It is getting harder and harder to find businesses that you feel good about dealing with isn't it? It is sad that Amazon stoops so low. It also allows individuals to sell their own products and has allowed many good writers find a market for their work when book stores just don't have the shelf space for unknowns. They are also, I believe, partnered with Borders which I don't like too much. I much perfer locally owned bookstores. I like what you say about standing apart from rather than against something. That is how I am approaching a lot of world issues these days.
Where was the outrage when one athlete was accused of murder, another of rape? All this outrage about dogs, and the man has not even been tried yet!
Thanks MB, I'll be shopping new sources...
Do you actually believe that YOU don't do business with creeps? Let me let you in on a little secret. If you live in the USA you do business with creeps every day and you probably work for someone who helps maintain the economic imbalance that keeps much of the world's human population in poverty and misery. Look at history and current affairs then ask yourself did the Europeans, who have colonized much of the inhabited parts of the world without a care for man nor beast, (and then proceeded to rape or kill the native populations, export war like no other and steal like there was no tomorrow) bring more suffering, death and environmental destruction than the largely poor and non white people who raise animals for fighting sports? I'm sure you will not agree with me, but just think about this... wouldn't your time be better spent if it were split between hypocritical, holier than though criticism of the minor problems facing humanity and a little introspection?
so... what? we're not supposed to be upset or alarmed or even just surprised by this post because somewhere maaaybe someone is dealing with a creep? so we should want things to be 'better'? things are already crappy and they're ONLY animals so why are you complaining is your argument...? you seem to have a lot of time to set us straight though, thank god!
Goodness, this post has attracted some anger (at what, I'm not at all certain).
I did not know of Amazon's political or philosophical leanings until now. I am also reluctant to support them as well. I will be shopping elsewhere.
there is an independent bookstore in scotsdale that is an easy stop for me when i've got business in phoenix or tempe. it's called "the poison pen" and that's where my trade will be going in the future. they are't a chain, they are local folks and that's something i can get behind.
welcome anonymous troll assholes! this is a sign that i've arrived! i haven't attracted much attention from you guys. some of it i'm sure has to do with my personal support and belief in things like the code duello.
i know that by living in the u.s. i've done business with creeps. i was in the navy during viet nam, hell, i was commanded by creeps. the thing is when i find out about it, when it is something that i can do, i do it. i raise a lot of my own food because i would rather not do business with agribusiness assholes, but mostly because it tastes better.
shit, i have have no claim to moral highground or outrage. the highest ground i ever occupied was a barstool and i probably committed enough outrages to forever deny me any position as moral arbiter. i have, before they were outlawed here in arizona, and in the philipines and thailand attended cockfights. if it's something you really enjoy, if it's something that fulfils your life, by all means, go ahead. don't expect to see me anywhere near you though.
creep.
takes all kinds doesn't it mb?
i apreciated you letting me know about this. : )
Now where am i going to find rare CDs. Assholes. I had no idea.
lakeguy, somewhere near you is a local music store staffed by record nerds. No chain will do. You will know your worthy nerds by their arcane knowledge of artists, bands and albums from the last 100 years. Plus, they wear Suzi Quattro t-shirts.
Buy from those guys. They know their shit and will help you get music you would otherwise never find.
allow me to echo the sentiments of tata. small, off chain record stores hold treasures to be found. and the staff there usually adore digging through with you to find it. the guys at my favorite little nook in phoenix have come to adore the old 60's bubble 45's that i love so shamelessly. they will sometimes call me breathless because they have found "electric indian" by kimo sabe or a rare single issue from the tijuana brass. . .
there is also p2p sharing service (but pay your fees and royalties please, i still got educations to pay for) to download single tunes. those services are only going to get better and easier to use.
and i almost forgot the background music for my reply
but don't take me home baby
no no No No!
(drum break)
'cause your mama won't like me
Their politics are pretty much greedy neocon bastard variety
Neocon, huh? You mean Amazon is run by people who were mainstream liberals in the seventies but migrated to the GOP because they believed in the use of military force as a tool for democracy promotion? Weird. Why would they want to sell books online?
(I'm sorry, but it makes me loopy when people treat "neocon" as a synonym for "conservative" or "right-winger". Neoconservatism is a specific subset of right-wing thought that pertains to foreign policy and nothing else.)
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